Have you ever wondered if we really are being attacked by invisible killers, or is it a ploy by people like me who sell products to remove these toxins? The map to the left lists sites which emit pollutants into the atmosphere in Ayustralia. The red areas have more than 100 polluting sites.

We all know that many mainstream health experts suggest we detox everything naturally, and that we aren’t exposed to much anyway. How does that explain the thousands who suffer from a wide range of conditions, who suddenly have relief once they discover excess heavy metals in their bodies and remove them?

What about liver problems. I learnt that the poor old liver does its best to remove and neutralize toxins, but unfortunately it eventually gets worn out and doesn’t work so well any more. Liver problems are a clear sign of excess toxins in the body.

The Facts About Toxins

I discovered a web site in Australia and with a little searching was able to extract the amount of specific heavy metals and toxins released into the environment in those areas.

I discovered that no one in their right mind would live in Mt Isa. The levels of lead and arsenic are off the scale. If I lived there, I would be gulping down Zeolite in large quantities! Our area of Gosford has the highest level of Cadmium. This is a viscous heavy metal most associated with smoking. It is involved with computers, TVs and electronic equipment. I have no idea where this comes from, but it might explain the high incidence of breast cancer in the area.

The West coast of Tasmania is full of Zinc, and the cities are being sprayed with Benzene and lead from cars.

Good Places To Live?

Funnily enough, Broken Hill and Esperance rate low in terms of toxins emitted. These towns have been cleaned up. This would be the place to live except that the site doesn’t measure ground contamination from years and years of industry.

Here is the data I collected. You can find some for your town or area at http://www.npi.gov.au/npidata In the US you can go to http://toxtown.nlm.nih.gov/

If this does concern you, you can use Activated Liquid Zeolite to remove toxins from your body. We now have proof we are under attack, and I feel fortunate to have something to mitigate the damage. Contact me at john@pems.com.au or go to http://detoxzeolite for more information.

City	Arsenic	Benzene	Cadmium	Lead	Mercury	Zinc	VOC’s
Newcastle	28	120,000	170	490	47	2200	5200000
Gosford	2.7	120000	570	670	3.6	2100	6700000
Sydney	27	94000	200	1300	4.1	1500	4200000
Mt Isa	20	230	12	120000	4000	79000	120000
Broken Hill	37	17	4.2	690	0.031	1300	13000
Esperance	0.71	410	0	0	0	16	65000
Whyalla	29	32000	22	55	1.5	73	1600000
Frankston	21	69000	21	260	2.4	260	3300000
Melbourne	37	130000	28	500	2.6	400	5400000
Hobart	10	91000	7.2	3300	5.2	640	2100000
Tas West Coast	2800	4.7	2	8800	5.3	140000	22000

By John Gaydon

Coca Cola Steals Our Underground Water

Where I live there has been a big story about the bottled water scam. It appears up to 47% of bottled water comes straight from the council tap and much comes from polluted artesian springs.

On the Central Coast near me, Coca Cola is bottling water high in Lead, Nitrosamines and Aflotoxins, according to a report on the water table in the paper recently.

So, yesterday I was at a relative’s birthday party and someone there started telling me how all our food was toxic, the wax on an apple was equivalent to more cholesterol than a bag of chips, and how 60% of the nutrients and toxins in fruit was in the skin.

Readers of these articles are well aware that toxins are a real problem and that you can’t avoid getting some into your body unless you live under a rock on the North Pole. Mind you, even there core samples reveal dioxin and other VOCs!

The Situation Is Serious

What astounds me is that when I talk to people they are very interested in complaining about all the horrible stuff that is happening to us, but much less interested in solutions! If it is impossible to live toxin free, and in my opinion surely the best way to ensure your family’s vibrant health is to keep removing these toxins from your body! Leave them there and they accumulate to the point where you get sick, lose your energy or God forbid, contract some horrible disease.

Experts Spill The Beans

Years ago, Dr Steven Nugent, who works for Mannatech, another nutritional company, was on a mission to teach everyone about our toxic world. His book, “How To Survive On A Toxic Planet” says it all. The problem is that while Dr Nugent points out many of the challenges we face in our modern world, and proves that toxins in certain cities result in certain serious disease, he offers no solution other than glyconutrients and antioxidants.

The company Dr Nugent represents teaches us that our cells communicate. What he doesn’t say is that heavy metals and toxins attach themselves to cell receptors like superglue, inhibit proper cell function and don’t let go unless a really strong glue remover comes along.

How To Rid Yourself Of Toxins

Enter Activated Liquid Zeolite. There are so many detox programs and products, you could go crazy trying to distinguish between them. Rik Deitsch and Dr Stewart Lonke, in their book, “Invisible Killers”, offer hope in the form of Activated Liquid Zeolite. In the book they even explain many other methods of removing toxins, point out the differences and leave you in no doubt that Activated Liquid Zeolite is the safest, most effective product available today to detoxify your cells.

At http://zeolitereview.org you will see heaps of articles on Activated Liquid Zeolite, plus some great zeolite testimonials and Scientific proof.

If you wish to find out even more, have specific questions, or would like to know how to get your hands on Activated Liquid Zeolite, please contact me.

John Gaydon

John Gaydon has been researching and applying strategies to enhance life in every way for over 30 years. Starting with Colonic Irrigations and fruit and vegetable juicing, he progressed to Breath work and Personal Development training and for 6 years organized major Mind Body Spirit Festivals throughout Australia. John believes in living a life of passion, and he is following his dream of enhancing the lives of everyone he connects with. John is a very healthy 59 year old, with a 5 year old daughter, takes no pharmaceutical drugs, and lives in Kariong one hour north of Sydney Australia. John can be contacted at john@pems.com.au or 61 2 4340 2711 (02 4340 2711 within Australia). You can Skype using john@pems.com.au

PS: Coca Cola were just granted a license to extract millions of liters of water from our area

Like it or not, we live in a toxic environment. These days, there are many diseases for which the medical profession can’t find as cause. We know that autoimmune diseases are caused by the breakdown of the immune system. It is coming to light that environmental toxins have a huge role to play in modern diseases. After all, before these existed, most of the conditions didn’t either!

Here are some of the effects of environmental toxins. They are very difficult to remove until now. A new technology safely removes heavy metals and toxins without damaging your body. If you decide that you have any of the conditions listed here, why not use our technology to clean out the toxins and see what happens to your health.

Arsenic
Exposure to arsenic occurs mostly in the workplace, near hazardous waste sites, or in areas with high natural levels. Symptoms of acute arsenic poisoning are sore throat from breathing, red skin at contact point, or severe abdominal pain, vomiting, and diarrhoea, often within 1 hour after ingestion. Other symptoms are anorexia, fever, mucosal irritation, and arrhythmia. Cardiovascular changes are often subtle in the early stages but can progress to cardiovascular collapse.

Chronic or lower levels of exposure can lead to progressive peripheral and central nervous changes, such as sensory changes, numbness and tingling, and muscle tenderness. A symptom typically described is a burning sensation (“needles and pins”) in hands and feet. Neuropathy (inflammation and wasting of the nerves) is usually gradual and occurs over several years. There may also be excessive darkening of the skin (hyperpigmentation) in areas that are not exposed to sunlight, excessive formation of skin on the palms and soles (hyperkeratosis), or white bands of arsenic deposits across the bed of the fingernails (usually 4-6 weeks after exposure). Birth defects, liver injury, and malignancy are possible. (Arsenic has also been used in homicides and suicides.)

Lead
Acute exposure to lead is also more likely to occur in the workplace, particularly in manufacturing processes that include the use of lead (e.g., where batteries are manufactured or lead is recycled). Even printing ink, gasoline, and fertilizer contain lead. Symptoms include abdominal pain, convulsions, hypertension, renal dysfunction, loss of appetite, fatigue, and sleeplessness. Other symptoms are hallucinations, headache, numbness, arthritis, and vertigo.

Chronic exposure to lead may result in birth defects, mental retardation, autism, psychosis, allergies, dyslexia, hyperactivity, weight loss, shaky hands, muscular weakness, and paralysis (beginning in the forearms). Children are particularly sensitive to lead (absorbing as much as 50% of the ingested dose) and are prone to ingesting lead because they chew on painted surfaces and eat products not intended for human consumption (e.g., hobby paints, cosmetics, hair colourings with lead-based pigments, and even playground dirt). In addition to the symptoms found in acute lead exposure, symptoms of chronic lead exposure could be allergies, arthritis, autism, colic, hyperactivity, mood swings, nausea, numbness, lack of concentration, seizures, and weight loss.

Mercury
Acute mercury exposure may occur in the mining industry and in the manufacturing of fungicides, thermometers, and thermostats. Liquid mercury is particularly attractive to children because of its beautiful silver colour and unique behaviour when spilled. Children are more likely to incur acute exposure in the home from ingesting mercury from a broken thermometer or drinking medicine that contains mercury. Because mercury vapours concentrate at floor level, crawling children are subject to a significant hazard when the mercury is sprinkled throughout the house during religious ceremonies or when there is an accidental spill (Zayas et al. 1996). Mercury spills are difficult to clean up, and mercury may remain undetected in carpeting for some time. Symptoms of acute exposure are cough, sore throat, and shortness of breath; metallic taste in the mouth, abdominal pain, nausea, vomiting and diarrhoea; headaches, weakness, visual disturbances, tachycardia, and hypertension.

Chronic exposure to mercury may result in permanent damage to the central nervous system (Ewan et al. 1996) and kidneys. Mercury can also cross the placenta from the mother’s body to the foetus (levels in the foetus are often double those in the mother) and accumulate, resulting in mental retardation, brain damage, cerebral palsy, blindness, seizures, and inability to speak.

Dental amalgam is also suspected as being a possible source of mercury toxicity from chronic exposure. Some physicians suggest that amalgam fillings could be part of the explanation for the explosion of learning problems and autism in children since World War II, a time period corresponding with the introduction and widespread use of mercury amalgam (O’Brien 2001). Studies in both animals and humans have confirmed the presence of mercury from amalgam fillings in tissue specimens, blood, amniotic fluid, or urine (Vimy et al. 1990; Willershausen-Zonnchen et al. 1992; Gebel et al. 1996; Omura et al. 1996; Sallsten et al. 1996; Isacsson et al. 1997). However, according to Dr. Robert M. Anderton of the American Dental Association, “There is no sound scientific evidence supporting a link between amalgam fillings and systemic diseases or chronic illness” (Anderton 2001).

The ADA does acknowledge that amalgam contains mercury and reacts with others substances. However, to date the ADA concludes that amalgam continues to be a safe material. Researchers reported finding “no significant association of Alzheimer’s disease with the number, surface area, or history of having dental amalgam restoration” and “no statistical significant differences in brain mercury levels between subjects with Alzheimer’s disease and control subjects” (Saxe et al. 1999).

Interestingly, the metallic mercury used by dentists to manufacture dental amalgam is shipped as a hazardous material to dental offices. Although the ADA does not advise removing existing amalgam fillings from teeth, it does support ongoing research to develop new materials that will prove to be as safe as dental amalgam (Anderton 2001). Symptoms in adults and children could include tremors, anxiety, forgetfulness, emotional instability, insomnia, fatigue, weakness, anorexia, cognitive and motor dysfunction, and kidney damage. People who consume more than two fish meals a week are showing very high serum levels of mercury.

Cadmium
Acute exposure to cadmium generally occurs in the workplace, particularly in the manufacturing processes of batteries and colour pigments used in paint and plastics, as well as in electroplating and galvanizing processes. Symptoms of acute cadmium exposure are nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain, and breathing difficulty.

Chronic exposure to cadmium can result in chronic obstructive lung disease, renal disease, and fragile bones. Protect children by carefully storing products containing cadmium, especially nickel-cadmium batteries. Symptoms of chronic exposure could include alopecia, anaemia, arthritis, learning disorders, migraines, growth impairment, emphysema, osteoporosis, loss of taste and smell, poor appetite, and cardiovascular disease.

Aluminium
Although aluminium is not a heavy metal, environmental exposure is frequent, leading to concerns about accumulative effects and a possible connection with Alzheimer’s disease (Anon. 1993). Acute exposure is more likely in the workplace (e.g., unintentional breathing of aluminium-laden dust from manufacturing or metal finishing processes).

Chronic exposure may occur in the workplace from accumulated exposures to low levels of airborne aluminium dust and handling aluminium parts during assembly processes over many years. In the home, we are in constant contact with aluminium in foods and in water; from cookware and soft drink cans; from consuming items with high levels of aluminium (e.g., antacids, buffered aspirin, or treated drinking water; or even by using nasal sprays, toothpaste, and antiperspirants) (Anon. 1993; ATSDR ToxFAQs for Aluminium). Citric acid (e.g., in orange juice) may increase aluminium levels by its leaching activity.

Interestingly, aluminium-based coagulants are used in the purification of water. However, the beneficial effects of using aluminium in water treatment have been balanced against the potential health concerns. Water purification facilities follow a number of approaches to minimize the level in “finished” water (WHO 1998). Symptoms of aluminium toxicity include memory loss, learning difficulty, loss of coordination, disorientation, mental confusion, colic, heartburn, flatulence, and headaches.

We can assist you to remove these heavy metals from your body. Results can be verified by hair analysis and urine tests. Call 02 4340 2711 and ask for John or go to http://www.detoxzeolite.com/zeolite.htm for more detailed information.

Last night, world environmentalist, Dr David Suzuki, was interviewed on Lateline, one of Australia’s premier news programs.

Many of you will know that Dr Suzuki has been in the forefront of the call to minimize toxins in the environment.

He talked about constant opposition from scientists and the Universities he worked at and attempts by big business to shut him down over the years.

We Are Killing Ourselves Slowly

The message we heard last night is that the world is on an unsustainable path, slowly polluting the environment. He pointed out the number of children with Asthma and many other diseases, as an indication of the toxicity we now face, and he said he can no longer visit China or India because of the severe pollution. He further suggested that apart from heavy metals and other toxins, we each have about 1 pound of plastic in our bodies, accumulated over a lifetime!

If you believe Dr Suzuki even partly you will realize that the toxic body burden we carry in our bodies contributes to a lack of vitality, poor health and eventually inflammation and disease. To most people this is becoming obvious. What is not so obvious, is what we can do about it!

What I Am Doing About This Situation

Over the last 4 years I have been taking Activated Liquid Zeolite on a regular basis and for the last month or so eating two to three pieces of Chava Vital Chocolate every day. I am feeling fabulous and have noticed many symptoms I used to have simply disappear.

Others I have introduced to this technology report similar findings.

Now I know that I am selling these products, because I believe in them, but to date I haven’t found a better way to stay vital and healthy and ensure a long healthy life.

As I head towards 60, not only do I see many small children suffering (our 4 year old is in perfect health) but many younger than me suffering from Diabetes, Arthritis, Cancer, heart disease, high blood pressure, etc. All of these are at least partly caused by toxins in the body, something you simply can’t avoid in 2010.

What You can Do To Protect Yourself And Your Family

I would encourage you to take 10-15 drops a day of Activated Liquid Zeolite as a daily minimum to keep those toxins at bay and if you do this with 2-3 pieces of Chava which include the Zeolite, you get a high level of antioxidants to counteract the free radicals as well.

Right now the Aussie dollar is very high, so the cost of these products is at rock bottom.

You may not believe my message, but isn’t it interesting to know that the world’s greatest environmentalist has the same message about our toxic world?

To order product I can be reached at john@pems.com.au, or in Australia call (02) 4340 2711. Skype is john_gaydon

When I first heard about Activated Liquid Zeolite, and the incredible story of our toxic environment, I was shocked. Naturally, I sent on a mission to tell others how our lives are threatened by environmental toxins and the good news that we can do something to minimize their impact!

Unfortunately, many people either don’t want to know about this, or simply don’t understand the impact herbicides, pesticides and heavy metals have on human health. Let’s face it, every time we bite into a ripe apple, we are taking in toxins as well as all the nutritious benefits.

Compelling Evidence for Toxicity In Australia and the World

Well for those of you who are still skeptical, think again! Chanel 9′s 60 minutes, in a 13 minute story, drops a bomb on this subject. In just 13 minutes, you will be convinced! The really scary thing is that this story is only about 2 of the thousands of chemicals out there.

While you are watching this video, please not what is said about fruit and vegetables and toxic labeling requirements. What they misrepresent is that packaged food has no requirements to list heavy metals, or pesticides used in the growing of raw materials for their products. This is not limited to fresh fruit and veggies.

So settle back and watch this, and then leave a comment on this story and tell e if I am scaremongering, or over the top!

http://video.au.msn.com/watch/video/poisoned/x4fb1ne?from=sharepermalink

There Is Something You Can Do Today!

You can always call, or email me and get some Activated Liquid Zeolite so you can at least have a way to fight back. That’s what I do1

Contact me on Australia (02) 4340 2711, Skype john_gaydon. Email john@detoxzeolite.com

I really hope this opens your eyes and demonstrates how important it is that we not only spread awareness of this insane situation we live in, but the hope of a way to get these chemicals out of your body before they cause too much damage!

My discovery in 2006 of Activated Liquid Zeolite, excited me as it reinforced what I had already learned about toxins and their effects on humans. This article contains vital information that may shock you, and will level you with a clear understanding of what toxins can do to affect your health. Awareness of these invisible killers is essential if we are to thrive in the future.

Toxins Affect Everyone

Like it or not, toxins affect all of us. There are thousands of them in the air we breathe, Water we drink and the food we eat. Most homes are riddled with toxins in the carpets, cleaning materials, and even paint on the walls. They interfere with body functions and can affect your mind, body and spirit in profound ways. Experts suggest up to 85% of disease has its origins in toxins, and this probably explains the huge increase in autoimmune diseases such as allergies, cancer, arthritis, dementia and diabetes in recent years.

Are Medications Toxic?

One cause of toxicity often overlooked is prescription drugs. For the most part every time you take an additional medication, you add to the toxic burden of the body. Unfortunately many people take more medications for the side effects of drugs they are taking, leading to a vicious cycle that can end in the immune system breaking down.

Another source of toxicity comes from lifestyle and relationships. The atmosphere of your living space, harmony of relationships, how you feel about your work all play a part in how toxic your body is. Every time we suppress an emotion, we increase the toxic load on our body. This interferes with our natural elimination process.

Body Burden

I love this concept. Did you know that when someone dies, their body now takes longer to decompose, and in some people they have measured up to 6 pounds of toxins!

Consider your body like a see saw. Your health sits on one end and on the other the toxins in your body. As you consume more stuff full of toxins, the weight on the other end increases. Eventually the amount becomes sufficient to tip the scales and you start feeling ill. The toxins have an accumulative effect, so once they affect your health, you continue to worsen.

Now you have a few options. You can do something to suppress the pain, or remove some of the toxins and get back into balance. Removing the toxins, allows your immune system to switch on again, and prevents further illness. When we first experience pain, it is a signal to us that we are not living right, and that we need to make some changes. When you do this, the pain often disappears. Removing toxins will not only restore your health, but if you keep going and get most of them out, you will be resilient against further attacks.

Some Health Professionals don’t believe in detoxification. They assert that the body does this normally, and that anyone suggesting a detox program is simply trying to get your money. I find this irresponsible as I have seen thousands improve their health by removing toxins.

Where Do These Toxins Accumulate?

Well, everywhere! They lodge in your bones, fat cells, brain, and body tissue. The organs that attempt to eliminate them are the Colon, Appendix, Liver, Kidneys, and Thyroid. When any of these organs causes a problem you can be almost certain toxins are involved.

Some expound the theory that nutrition can eliminate these nasty toxins. To some extent this is true, particularly antioxidants. They certainly help the immune system do its job and eliminate free radical damage. Unfortunately, when your body is toxic, It doesn’t fully take up nutrients, and until the toxic load on the body has been reduced, it is difficult to get your systems operating as they should.

Removing toxins from Your Body

Some of the methods of removing toxins are breathwork, clean water, colon cleansing and activated liquid zeolite. These are some of the most effective I have found and are the subject of another article.

Results of detoxification

Most of us are totally unaware of the damage these invisible killers cause. Often just a few days after commencing a detox program we feel more energy and vitality, think clearer, and develop a more positive attitude to life. Often we take how we feel for granted, with no idea that it can be caused by our environment!

Summary.

Detoxification is becoming an essential part of maintaining optimal health. We can no longer avoid toxins. We are being damaged by them every day. What we can do is take action to minimize exposure and get them out of the body before they do too much damage.

Learn how to rid your body of dangerous toxins. You can achieve greater wellness. Let me share more of my knowledge with you. Go to http://goodhelathbeginshere.com for more articles like this one. IF you would like to know more about activated liquid zeolite, please fill in the form and collect your free report.

Did you ever wonder why some people seem to receive amazing health improvements after taking dietary supplements while there is no effect on others? Is removing toxins the missing link in supplementation?

We Know Supplements Work

I have been searching for answers to this question for years. As a distributor of high quality supplements which have changed people’s lives, why didn’t they work for everyone?

Those of you who take supplements know how wonderful they are. It is well documented that our food is deficient, even thought the Australian Government recently passed legislation preventing us from advertising this fact.

Personally, I have seen so many people return to good health after using nutritional supplements that I have no doubt of their effectiveness. Many great companies produce outstanding products and most of you reading this article know this from personal experience.

What Stops Supplements Working?

One wonders if there isn’t a secret “X” factor in some people, which prevents supplements from doing their job. Well, there is.

Most of the supplement companies talk about our environment. They talk about food deficient in vitamins and minerals, and toxins in the air we breathe, the water we drink, and the food we eat. In my opinion, all this is true based on available scientific research. Just about every supplement company talks about the 7,000 new chemicals in use and the fact that only 7% have been tested for safety.

First Defense Detoxification

Now, what about those toxins? We are told that antioxidants cleanse the body of free radicals. Providing large quantities of vitamins and minerals allows the body to cleanse. Use of colon cleanses and fiber products allows cleansing of the body.

When you look into the mainstream, their solution is to clean up the environment and wait for the levels to drop. The medical system offers some rather dangerous chelating agents. Some of these require vitamin injections because they deprive the body of so many nutrients.

Your supplement company probably educated you that our bodies are composed of some 60 trillion cells. They will tell you that good health begins at the cellular level and healthy cells make healthy bodies. They may even tell you that cell receptors communicate cell needs and allow vital nutrients to be absorbed through the cell walls. The theory once again is that if you flood the body with good nutrition, these nutrients attach themselves to the cell receptors, preventing invasion by toxins and heavy metals.

What if the toxins were there before you started taking the supplements?

Now here is the challenge. This is a secondary effect. None of these supplements munches up the heavy metals and removes them from your body. It is a bit like masking symptoms with drugs. If your body has an excess of heavy metals or toxins, nutritional supplements will to some extent “mask” the symptoms and you will feel well. They will inefficiently reduce the toxins present. This doesn’t mean that all the toxins have gone away. Because toxins are foreign to our human anatomy, we simply don’t have the mechanisms to efficiently eliminate them, although many will say we do.

Imagine for a moment, there is a way to directly remove toxins and heavy metals from your body. Then your nutritional supplements can do their work, building a strong, resilient body and provide the support they were intended to. No longer would you be using added nutrition to compensate for toxins in your body. Makes sense, doesn’t it?

Hair analysis results prove the point.

Recently, I came across a new technology that fills this gap. Laboratory tests show a definite reduction of heavy metals and toxins after just a few weeks taking the product. Better still, the reports back up the idea that more vitamins and minerals are available after reducing toxin levels.

Here are my personal results.

First, the vital nutritional elements.

 

These results demonstrate all nutritional levels tested are in the normal range after 6 months on Activated Liquid Zeolite, proving that this product does not sap your body of nutrients. This is very important. In fact it shows that elements such as iron and Copper, which were low on the scale improved and toxic and nutritional ratios normalised.

Now for the toxins and heavy metals

 

 

This is clear evidence that reducing toxic load on the body does allow better take up from vitamins and minerals! So what did I do to remove all those toxins from my body?

You Can Have These Results Or Better

Well there is a new technology which safely removes heavy metals from the body. At first I ignored it, but then I started hearing of some great health results, so I investigated further.

If this makes sense to you, you might consider a one month detox program. For most people, this will remove the majority of toxins in your body. The product uses a liquid Zeolite, a volcanic mineral, which captures toxins from the cells and passes them safely out of the body in the urine.

Conclusion.

• Toxins and heavy metals inhibit take up of vital nutrients from food and supplements.
• These toxins damage our body and can lead to disease.
• You can find out whether you have toxins or heavy metals in your body by laboratory tests.
• Activated Liquid Zeolite removes heavy metals from the cells and allow your supplements to work at optimum levels.

 

The result is you need less supplements for a superior result.

John Gaydon has been researching Detoxification as a means to vital health for over 30 years. John found that Activated Liquid Zeolite made a huge difference to his own level of vitality and that of many others. If you are interested in finding out more about how liquid Zeolite can detoxify your body, or help others, please phone John on 61 2 4340 2711 or email me at john@pems.com.au